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- Category: Buyers
- $18,000 home buyer tax credit now for short time!
- $8,000 tax credit advances in the Senate
- Appraisals lagging offered prices
- Buy a home - but only when ready.
- Federal Reserve decisions - how they affect you
- First time homebuyer online tutorial - Part 1
- First time homebuyer online tutorial - Part 2
- First time homebuyer online tutorial - Part 3
- Obama extends & adds home buyer tax credits
- REO auctions - good deals??
- REO properties and the bidding process - knowing value!
- Time to think about buying?
- Will $8,000 tax credit be extended?
- Category: Foreclosures
- "Strategic default" - Morgan Stanley did it, why not you?
- 2 interesting REO properties
- A day at the (foreclosure) auction
- Are Foreclosure Statistics Amazing??
- Chase and Citi stop foreclosures
- Drop in foreclosures for Ventura County?
- Foreclosure "moratorium" in the news
- Foreclosure defaults are down in Ventura County
- Foreclosures at all time high in February
- Foreclosures easing off in Ventura County
- Foreclosures holding steady in Ventura County
- HAFA - A new streamlined short sale process
- HAFA - Detailed video about the new streamlined short sale process
- Hope for troubled homeowners
- Hope Now update
- Huge drop in Ventura County foreclosures
- Investors and buying opportunities in a down market
- Knowing value in a bank owned home
- Legislature passes tax relief for short sales/foreclosures
- Loan modification through bankruptcy.
- REO "speed dating" caravan last Saturday
- REO auctions - good deals??
- REO properties and the bidding process - knowing value!
- Schwarzenegger proposes 90 day foreclosure freeze
- Short pays - driving everyone crazy...
- Short sale vs. foreclosure
- Short sale vs. foreclosure? Fannie Mae gives the answer...
- Short sales vs. REOs vs. a "regular" deal
- Spike in Ventura County foreclosures
- The bailout: Section 110 - Assistance to Homeowners
- The bailout: Section 124 - Hope for Homeowners Amendments
- The foreclosure process
- Treasury Department issues loan modification rules
- Updated mortgage workout links
- Ventura County Foreclosure Stats for last 12 months
- Want to buy a bank foreclosure?
- Category: Home buyers
- "Contingent back up" in the MLS - what does that mean?
- "Speed dating" 9 REO's (in 90 minutes!) yesterday - an update
- $18,000 home buyer tax credit now for short time!
- $8,000 credit available now for closing costs
- $8,000 for first time home buyers
- $8,000 tax credit advances in the Senate
- A great scam - be a philantropist with OPM!
- A new listing in Ventura - To The Beach!
- A P.S. to previous post about interest rates
- Buyers - beware!
- Buying a McKeon condo same as renting it
- Camarillo MLS listings surprise
- Close to closing escrow? Don't go shopping!
- COE+1 (huh?) and the "17 day thing"
- Fannie Mae updates its eligibility matrix
- FEMA changes flood zone criteria for Oxnard
- FHA changes loan requirements
- FHA interest rate way down
- First time buyer workshop & REO "speed dating" caravan
- First time home buyer workshop - June 26th!!
- First time homebuyer workshop last night
- First time homebuyer workshop on May 31st - update report
- First time homebuyer workshop on Saturday, May 31st!
- Home inspections - why do them?
- Homeowners - your pain? Buyers - your gain?
- House passes $7,500 first time home buyer credit
- Interest rates going up - why?
- Inventory levels plunge in Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- July 17!! First time home buyer workshop in Ventura
- July 19th!! "Speed dating" 9 REO's (in 90 minutes) in Ventura
- June 28th!! "Speed dating" 9 REO's (in 90 minutes)
- Knowing value in a bank owned home
- LA Times today reports home prices up
- Loan modifications and foreclosures - is this the "bottom"?
- Low interest rate vs. decline in home value
- Media reporting turns upbeat - examples:
- Military veterans earn 1 year federal tax credit extension
- Mortgage Protection Plan for first time buyers
- New home buyers may get $10,000 tax credit
- Obama extends & adds home buyer tax credits
- Oxnard MLS inventory in decline
- Oxnard REO "speed dating" caravan set for Nov. 15
- Realtors launch Mortgage Protection Program
- REO "speed dating" caravan last Saturday
- REO auctions - good deals??
- REO properties and the bidding process - knowing value!
- Report on home buyer workshop and REO caravan in N. Oxnard in June
- Report on home buyer workshop and REO caravan in Ventura in July!!
- Search hints for MLS - bank owned homes (REOs)
- Short sales vs. REOs vs. a "regular" deal
- The $7,500 first time homebuyer tax credit
- The 15% issue...
- Update on California first time buyer credit
- Ventura real estate and the $400,000 house
- Ventura | Oxnard | Camarillo real estate inventory levels
- Wall Street Journal - first time homebuyers?
- Your loan and the pizza you order!
- Category: Home sellers
- "Strategic default" - Morgan Stanley did it, why not you?
- A great scam - be a philantropist with OPM!
- COE+1 (huh?) and the "17 day thing"
- FEMA changes flood zone criteria for Oxnard
- HAFA - A new streamlined short sale process
- HAFA - Detailed video about the new streamlined short sale process
- HAMP leaves some worse off
- Legislature passes tax relief for short sales/foreclosures
- Short pays - driving everyone crazy...
- Short sale vs. foreclosure? Fannie Mae gives the answer...
- The bailout: Section 110 - Assistance to Homeowners
- Ventura | Oxnard | Camarillo real estate inventory levels
- Category: Homes sold
- 4th Quarter Statistics - 2005 - 2007
- August stats are in for Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- Camarillo homes sold in April from MLS
- Camarillo homes sold in December from Camarillo MLS listings
- Camarillo homes sold in February from Camarillo MLS listings
- Camarillo homes sold in January from Camarillo MLS listings
- Camarillo homes sold in March from MLS
- Camarillo homes sold in November from Camarillo MLS listings
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in April
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in August
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in February
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in July
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in June
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in March
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in May
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in October
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in September
- Can all time low interest rate sustain real estate market ferver?
- July stats are in for Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- Oxnard homes sold in April from MLS
- Oxnard homes sold in December from Oxnard MLS listings
- Oxnard homes sold in February from Oxnard MLS listings
- Oxnard homes sold in January from Oxnard MLS listings
- Oxnard homes sold in March from MLS
- Oxnard homes sold in November from Oxnard MLS listings
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in April
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in August
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in February
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in July
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in June
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in March
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in May
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in October
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in September
- Ventura homes sold in April from MLS
- Ventura homes sold in December from Oxnard MLS listings
- Ventura homes sold in February from Ventura MLS listings
- Ventura homes sold in January from Ventura MLS listings
- Ventura homes sold in March from MLS
- Ventura homes sold in November from Ventura MLS listings
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in April
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in August
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in February
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in July
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in June
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in March
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in May
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in October
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in September
- Ventura real estate trends of homes sold for May
- Ventura real estate trends of homes sold in June
- Category: 2008 Solds
- April sold statistics for Ventura, Camarillo and Oxnard
- August sold statistics for Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- February Statistics for Homes Sold
- January Statistics for Homes Sold
- July sold statistics for Ventura, Camarillo and Oxnard
- June sold statistics for Ventura, Camarillo and Oxnard
- May sold statistics for Ventura, Camarillo and Oxnard
- November sold statistics for Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- Number of homes selling is screaming up!
- October sold statistics for Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- September sold statistics for Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- Sold statistics for December
- Category: 2009 Solds
- Camarillo homes sold in December from Camarillo MLS listings
- Camarillo homes sold in November from Camarillo MLS listings
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in April
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in August
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in February
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in January
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in July
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in June
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in March
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in May
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in October
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes sold in September
- Oxnard homes sold in December from Oxnard MLS listings
- Oxnard homes sold in November from Oxnard MLS listings
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in April
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in August
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in February
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in January
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in July
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in June
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in March
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in May
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in October
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes sold in September
- Ventura homes sold in December from Oxnard MLS listings
- Ventura homes sold in November from Ventura MLS listings
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in April
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in August
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in February
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in January
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in July
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in June
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in March
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in May
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in October
- Ventura MLS listings - homes sold in September
- Category: 2010 Solds
- August stats are in for Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- Camarillo homes sold in April from MLS
- Camarillo homes sold in February from Camarillo MLS listings
- Camarillo homes sold in January from Camarillo MLS listings
- Camarillo homes sold in March from MLS
- Can all time low interest rate sustain real estate market ferver?
- July stats are in for Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- Oxnard homes sold in April from MLS
- Oxnard homes sold in February from Oxnard MLS listings
- Oxnard homes sold in January from Oxnard MLS listings
- Oxnard homes sold in March from MLS
- Ventura homes sold in April from MLS
- Ventura homes sold in February from Ventura MLS listings
- Ventura homes sold in January from Ventura MLS listings
- Ventura homes sold in March from MLS
- Ventura real estate trends of homes sold for May
- Ventura real estate trends of homes sold in June
- Category: Housing Market
- "Strategic default" - Morgan Stanley did it, why not you?
- Appraisals bomb a good escrow
- Can all time low interest rate sustain real estate market ferver?
- Foreclosure defaults are down in Ventura County
- Newspaper quotes Don Nelson about flippers
- Our July - August newsletter
- Our June newsletter - HAFA short sales and our video
- Ventura real estate trends of homes sold in June
- Category: Investors
- A day at the (foreclosure) auction
- A working lunch for investors.
- Continuing education - good stuff!
- Don closes Camarillo office building deal
- Investors and buying opportunities in a down market
- Newspaper quotes Don Nelson about flippers
- Oxnard MLS inventory in decline
- REO auctions - good deals??
- Why are investors buying now? Cash flow plus...?
- Category: Market statistics/Trends
- A front page Los Angeles Times article today talks about...
- Active Ventura homes for sale at lowest levels
- Are Foreclosure Statistics Amazing??
- August stats are in for Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- California Assn. of Realtors predictions for 2010
- Can all time low interest rate sustain real estate market ferver?
- Foreclosure defaults are down in Ventura County
- Foreclosures easing off in Ventura County
- Home sales drop 21.4% in July?
- Inventory level increases
- Inventory levels for March
- Inventory levels for May 7
- Inventory levels for Ventura, Oxnard & Camarillo
- Inventory levels in early February
- Inventory levels on June 6
- Inventory levels plunge in Oxnard
- Inventory levels plunge in Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- Inventory numbers continue to climb
- July stats are in for Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- LA Times headlines home values up
- LA Times today reports home prices up
- Looking at local inventory levels
- Los Angeles Times headline today about home prices
- March 24 - Ventura real estate home sales and price snapshot.
- More media news about upturn
- Snapshot analysis of June statistics
- Ventura County Foreclosure Stats for last 12 months
- Ventura home sale inventory jumps
- Ventura homes for sale increase
- Ventura homes for sale inventory at lowest level
- Ventura real estate trends of homes sold for May
- Ventura real estate trends of homes sold in June
- Ventura | Oxnard | Camarillo real estate inventory levels
- Wall Street Journal - first time homebuyers?
- Category: Mortgages/Interest rates
- A P.S. to previous post about interest rates
- Buyers - beware!
- Can all time low interest rate sustain real estate market ferver?
- Citigroup joins other major banks doing loan mods
- Fannie and Freddie - a HUGE drop in interest today!!
- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac announce their loan mod program
- Fed announces $1,000,000,000,000 plan
- Fed fix is working – interest rates coming down
- Federal Reserve decisions - how they affect you
- FHA changes loan requirements
- FHA interest rate way down
- FHA interest rates drop
- FHA mortgage insurance premium raised
- Hope for troubled homeowners
- How the housing bill affects all buyers
- HUD announces 125% for new re-fi limits
- Interest rates are going crazy - Part II
- Interest rates are going crazy!
- Interest rates going up - why?
- Interest rates plunge today!
- Interest rates spike
- LIBOR rates to affect many mortgages
- Low interest rate vs. decline in home value
- Major lender loan mod programs
- Mortgage applications spiked last week
- New FDIC proposal unveiled for troubled loans
- Paying points for your loan - an urban myth?
- Reduction in loan limits for 2009
- Return of the dinosaur! (the FHA loan)
- Special California loan for disabled first time buyers
- Treasury Department issues loan modification rules
- Treasury floats idea of 4.5% mortgages
- Update on interest rates
- Updated mortgage workout links
- Why the $700B bailout will be complex - the saga of 4141 Adriatic Street
- Yesterday's Fed interest rate drop...
- Your loan and the pizza you order!
- Category: Newsletters
- Category: Pending home sales
- August stats are in for Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- Camarillo homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for December
- Camarillo homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for February
- Camarillo homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for January
- Camarillo homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for November
- Camarillo homes in escrow (pending) for April
- Camarillo homes in escrow (pending) for March
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in April
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in August
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in February
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in July
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in June
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in March
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in May
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in October
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in September
- July stats are in for Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- Leading Indicator – Pending home sales
- Oxnard homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for December.
- Oxnard homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for February
- Oxnard homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for January
- Oxnard homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for November
- Oxnard homes in escrow (pending) for April
- Oxnard homes in escrow (pending) for March
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in April
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in August
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in February
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in July
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in June
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in March
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in May
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in October
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in September
- Ventura homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for December.
- Ventura homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for February
- Ventura homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for January
- Ventura homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) in November
- Ventura homes in escrow (pending) for April
- Ventura homes in escrow (pending) for March
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in April
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in August
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in February
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in July
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in June
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in March
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in May
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in October
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in September
- Ventura real estate trends of homes sold for May
- Ventura real estate trends of homes sold in June
- Category: 2008 Pendings
- April pendings - a strong leading indicator for real estate
- August Pendings - better late than never!
- July pendings - a strong leading indicator of real estate
- June pendings - a strong leading indicator of real estate
- Leading edge indicator - new pending sales
- Leading Indicator – Pending home sales
- May pendings - a strong leading indicator of real estate
- November Pendings - monthly statistics
- October Pendings - Oxnard hits all time high!
- Pending sales for December
- September Pendings - Quarterly Comparisons of 2008 and 2007
- Category: 2009 Pendings
- Camarillo homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for December
- Camarillo homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for November
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in April
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in August
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in February
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in January
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in July
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in June
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in March
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in May
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in October
- Camarillo MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in September
- Oxnard homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for December.
- Oxnard homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for November
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in April
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in August
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in February
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in January
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in July
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in June
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in March
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in May
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in October
- Oxnard MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in September
- Ventura homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for December.
- Ventura homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) in November
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in April
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in August
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in February
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in January
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in July
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in June
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in March
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in May
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in October
- Ventura MLS listings - homes pending (in escrow) in September
- Category: 2010 Pendings
- August stats are in for Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- Camarillo homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for February
- Camarillo homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for January
- Camarillo homes in escrow (pending) for April
- Camarillo homes in escrow (pending) for March
- July stats are in for Ventura, Oxnard and Camarillo
- Oxnard homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for February
- Oxnard homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for January
- Oxnard homes in escrow (pending) for April
- Oxnard homes in escrow (pending) for March
- Ventura homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for February
- Ventura homes for sale - pendings (in escrow) for January
- Ventura homes in escrow (pending) for April
- Ventura homes in escrow (pending) for March
- Ventura real estate trends of homes sold for May
- Ventura real estate trends of homes sold in June
- Category: Random Stuff
- "Mother" and now I've seen it all...
- A day at the (foreclosure) auction
- A great scam - be a philantropist with OPM!
- A new listing in Ventura - To The Beach!
- Cash for Clunkers and the Real Estate market
- Don to speak at American Association of Individual Investors meeting Thursday
- Falling doorknobs...
- Is it Time to Buy?
- Leslie passes her broker test!
- New statewide California MLS coming.
- Observations from open house yesterday.
- REO auctions - good deals??
- Sarah & Todd Palin vs. John and Cindy McCain (et al...)
- Short pays - driving everyone crazy...
- Two major real estate conferences in 2 weeks
- Ventura's new rental housing ordinance
- Victoria Avenue corridor plan
- Victoria Avenue corridor plan scheduled for final approval Feb. 23
- Category: Sellers
- Category: Short Sales
- Category: The Economy/Economics
- "Moral hazard" - the great debate in foreclosures
- "Strategic default" - Morgan Stanley did it, why not you?
- $700,000,000,000 - what it really means!
- 1:10 p.m. today - opinion from KNX1070 on market...
- A front page Los Angeles Times article today talks about...
- A layman’s guide to the Bear Stearns collapse
- Not impressed by House hearings on bailout
- Pass the pork (and the rum) please!
- The "Homeowner Affordability and Stability Plan"
- The proposed bailout - possible ramifications?
- Two major real estate conferences in 2 weeks
- Wall Street roller coaster ride - what impact on Ventura real estate?
- Category: The Fed & Housing policy
- "Moral hazard" - the great debate in foreclosures
- "The bailout must protect homeowners!" (But who? But how?)
- $700,000,000,000 - what it really means!
- $8,000 credit available now for closing costs
- $8,000 tax credit advances in the Senate
- Does Fed’s cut yesterday affect home buyers?
- Fannie and Freddie boost liquidity – good news for homebuyers!
- Fed announces $1,000,000,000,000 plan
- Federal Reserve decisions - how they affect you
- For first time home buyers.
- HAFA - Fannie and Freddie's guidelines released!
- HAMP leaves some worse off
- House passes $7,500 first time home buyer credit
- Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 - what it means to you.
- HUD announces 125% for new re-fi limits
- Legislature passes tax relief for short sales/foreclosures
- Loan modification through bankruptcy.
- Mortgage "cram down" bill stalled in Senate
- Not impressed by House hearings on bailout
- Obama extends & adds home buyer tax credits
- Pass the pork (and the rum) please!
- President Bush signs housing bill into law this morning.
- Reading the tea leaves
- Second mortgage relief for struggling homeowners
- Senate bogs down on housing crisis bill
- Senate rejects "cram down" provision
- Senate's plan for tax credit
- The "Homeowner Affordability and Stability Plan"
- The $7,500 first time homebuyer tax credit
- The bailout: Section 109 - Foreclosure Mitigation Efforts
- The proposed bailout - possible ramifications?
- Treasury Secretary Paulson: Revamp Credit Rules
- Wall Street roller coaster ride - what impact on Ventura real estate?
- Washington's progress on foreclosure help this week.
- What does 1 trillion dollars look like?
- What's the OFHEO (and why do I care?)
- Category: Tiger Moth
- A gallery of kids (and others) who've worked on the Tiger Moth
- Adding the leading edge to a wing.
- Boy Scouts work on the Tiger Moth
- Building jigs and ribs
- Building the spars and adding the ribs
- Building the Tiger Moth - an update
- Details, details, and more details
- Genesis of the Tiger Moth project
- Our July - August newsletter
- Our March newsletter
- Sunday afternoon out at the hangar
- Tiger Moth project update
- Update on Tiger Moth - part 1
- Update on Tiger Moth - part 2
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